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Katatonia / Swallow The Sun / Long Distance Calling gig
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This was fairly good. I got to the front for Long Distance Calling but after a couple of songs I decided it wasn't that interesting and that the sound, which was pretty awful at the front, might be better at the back. It wasn't. I found them competent but they drag the tunes out for far too long. People tell me that's what you're supposed to do with 'post-rock', but I think that's a poor excuse. And I hate the pretentiousness of labelling something 'post-rock' or 'post-metal'. Post as a prefix means 'after', but rock is still here. It's as if someone is claiming this is the 'new' music that is universally replacing the old, which is far from true. Anyway, I'd recommend Long Distance Calling for listening at home when doing something else but that's about all.

Swallow The Sun came on and were immediately hampered by both guitars being almost inaudible from where I was, and the bass being far too loud. Luckily this was rectified by the second song and they played a decent setlist. Most of the people in the audience seemed to look clueless throughout so I suppose it was mainly Katatonia fans in the audience this time.

Then Katatonia played and... they were ok too. I don't know if it's my age or the fact that I've seen most bands several times but I don't find most gigs exciting any more. I do find it disappointing when bands like Katatonia leave out huge swathes of their back catalogue however, the most notable omission being them not playing 'Murder' at the end any more. There was plenty to sing along to and they always perform well but as someone who thinks their new album is disappointing and their old albums are better, it wasn't terribly thrilling.

And that was it... apart from ending up in the Rescue Rooms where some DJ was playing... something... and a couple more drinks were had. And then home.
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I will avoid anything with "post-" at the front like a particularly nasty case of plague. I find what it usually means is this: take one musical style, play it deliberately discordantly and with a flagrant disregard for the rules of time signatures, then drape it in a veneer of smugness usually reserved for bands such as Dream Theater because it's "art" and all those plebs who play the same style without the "post-" just won't understand...

Post-rock, post-metal, post-hardcore, post-black metal, post-anything else for that matter: best place for them all is the bin.

Yeah, yeah. Just cos you don't get anything without a 4/4 beat.

Post-rock = Mogwai, post-metal = Neurosis/Isis, post-hardcore = Breach, post-black metal = Blut Aus Nord. Fucking glorious bands, with no smugness involved, one and all.

All in this hizzle in agreement.

Long Distance Calling was most definitely almost all in 4/4. :P

Didn't say that every post-whatever band was great though, did I. There's wheat, but there's still plenty of chaff...

Mainly I just object to the terminology. They're not really "post" anything. It implies some sort of succession that hasn't occurred. It's not even like these bands are like Sigur Rós or something really different from what went before - they typically just play normal rock/metal music but drag out the songs for longer and add a few more guitar effects. I'm not impressed, generally!

Blut's MoRT album as a good example (there are many others) says you are WRONG!

I can't comment on the ones I've not heard, just the ones that are clearly not all that different! And yet get called "post-whatever" just because someone overused their delay pedal a bit. In that area, I am RIGHT!

Are you Peter Mandelson?

In which case, they're not proper "post" bands. The ones I mention above take the sound of the style, usually take the emphasis off the vocals being the focal point of the music and generally throw the verse-chorus structure out of the window.

Long Distance Calling didn't seem much impressive to me, when I checked them out on Last.FM. They just seem pretty mediocre. :/

Hmm, I just saw the full setlist and you're right, it is very much focused on the most recent albums. Still, I enjoy them and at least they have kept in the song that introduced me to Katatonia; Criminals (I was a late starter with Katatonia, Viva Emptiness was the first I heard of them ;)) I am looking forward to seeing the tour when it finally hits Budapest, I hope I find it more satisfying than you did.

I've always said that if I get to the point where my band is gigging and has recorded material available, then we will always play at least one thing off each album at each gig. (Within reason - obviously if you have a 30 minute set, 4 records, and each song is 8 minutes long, you can't do it...) I know bands are rightfully happier with their new material and that the fans are more familiar with it, but I think at least a token gesture of recognition towards the old music and the long-standing fans who like it is justified. eg. I can understand Katatonia probably don't want to finish with 'Murder' any more but maybe they could start their encore with it and finish with a more recent song instead.